Displaced Pylons on Course

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  • #1013
    an nguyen
    Participant

    If a cone is only partly in box, do we follow this scca rule?
    In my last 2-3 runs there were slalom cones near the end that were displaced making the course slower. But I didn’t know our rule on this and also didn’t want the day to drag on longer as run groups took 2+ hours.

    7.9.2 Displaced or Downed Pylons on Course
    A competitor encountering a downed or displaced pylon on course has
    the option of continuing the run or stopping as soon as possible, and
    pointing out the downed or displaced pylon to a course worker.

    #1015
    Ryan Rich
    Moderator

    If you see a cone down you can stop and point at it and then receive a rerun on hot tires.

    Unless it is on a practice run.

    #1018
    Paul Berton
    Participant

    I had the same thing on my run 7. Even think it was the same cone. The issue is downed (out of box) yes, for sure, stop. But what about one still partially in the box, but obviously not centered? I think when I got to that cone in the slalom it was half out.. I slowed and then continued as it was still in so I could not stop.

    #1023
    Jeff Roberts
    Keymaster

    I think the rule An provided should apply. Honestly, I have no recollection of this situation ever coming up until this past event. After you mentioned it to me Paul, I walked out to the workers and pointed it out and they fixed it.

    I’m open to suggestions on course worker training. Last season I started the pre-session briefing hoping a fresh review of the duties right before going out would clarify any ambiguity. It takes time and I feel it still has value, but we sometimes have issues with downed cones being missed. I think one group on Saturday had quite a few re-runs for this reason.

    I provide this link in the confirmation e-mail and suggest new folks go thru it.

    [url=http://http://www.rmsolo.org/rmsoloschool/index.html]http://www.rmsolo.org/rmsoloschool/index.html[/url]

    Even though it’s not exactly the way our events run, the information is relevant and compliments the encyclopedia of stuff I send out in the confirmation e-mail. Everything anyone needs to know is provided in this e-mail and if it’s not in there, I link them to outside documents/posts on the forum that fill in the blanks. I cannot force people to read it, however.

    If I/we can do a better job of getting the information out there, I’m very open to new ideas. One just came to mind… perhaps I need to print a sheet of course worker guidelines to hand out to new folks at registration.

    Maybe we need to make a 5 minute video to point people to. I kinda like that idea too.

    #1026
    Jack Yu
    Moderator

    I had the same problem on my 7th run, there was a cone in the middle of the road, upright. It was not supposed to be there at all. I avoided it, but in hindsight, I should have stopped and pointed out this “extra” cone since it did alter my line and was completely distracting.

    I think if a cone is out of place and causing a new line, then you should have the right to stop and point it out to get a re-run.

    #1028
    an nguyen
    Participant

    Nudged standing cones can be missed by even veteran workers so allowing drivers to stop/point it out is a convenient/practical solution.

    Ps it’d be good to remind all workers near start/finish to run around not thru lights

    #1029
    an nguyen
    Participant

    http://www.rmsolo.org/rmsoloschool/index.html
    no extra http for clicking
    [quote=”jeffroberts” post=694]
    [url=http://http://www.rmsolo.org/rmsoloschool/index.html]http://www.rmsolo.org/rmsoloschool/index.html[/url]
    [/quote]

    #1031
    Rodger Ball
    Member

    [quote=”everbruin” post=699]Nudged standing cones can be missed by even veteran workers so allowing drivers to stop/point it out is a convenient/practical solution.[/quote]

    It would have to be out of the box for you get a free re-run. Slightly out, is still in play.

    #1033
    an nguyen
    Participant

    i guess i chose right in not stopping

    #1034
    Jeff Roberts
    Keymaster

    I guess we handled it as we should have then. Paul stopped at the trailer and brought it to my attention and I went out to get the course worker on it.

    [quote]Ps it’d be good to remind all workers near start/finish to run around not thru lights[/quote]

    I do that during the pre-session talk too.

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